How does loot drop participation work?

[JKin]

I am aware that the more damage you do, the more experience you receive.

However, how exactly does loot drop participation work? For example, if there was a solo warrior and a party of two mages killing the same mob, would the tank (dealing considerably less damage) have the same chance for items to drop as the party of two mages?

Thanks.

[Daeresha]

The way I understood it, if everyone is in the same party, then everyone has the same %xp (depending on player level) and the same chance for loot drops. This way tanks/healers that don’t do much damage will still benefit equally.
If you are not in the same party, then it’s based on the amount of damage done. The individuals doing the most damage get the higher % of xp and the higher chance of a drop.

[Timothy_K]

I remember them saying that it’s not just damage, and that the amount of aggro you get is factored in. so if you taunt as a warrior or heal someone as a musketeer, you still get credit based on the amount of threat you accumulate over the course of killing the mob. Heal the person it’s attacking, and you’re on the aggro list. That way tanks and healers aren’t just doing charity work.

[NotScott]

Quote from this thread explains the xp.

Musketeer Healing

To get XP for a monster kill, you just have to be on the monster’s aggro table when it dies. If you are in a party, you get credit for the aggro of everyone in your party as long as you are on there with at least 1 aggro point.

As a healer, you generate aggro on monsters when you heal someone that they are attacking.

So basically if you heal someone that the monster is attacking you should get credit. And if you are in a party with that person you will get full credit for what they do as well.

And for the loot, Riley explains that in this thread(around message 359)

Closed Beta 4 Feedback

Right so each person has their own chance to get a drop on the monster. It’s personal loot. However, your chances of getting loot, like XP, can go up based on your overall contribution to defeating the monster. So if you walk by someone killing a monster that is 3/4 dead and you just help a little, your chances of getting loot rolls are not as high as the person who did 3/4 of the work.

When you’re in a party, you get credit for everyone in your party. That way if you’re a Musketeer spending your time healing allies, you’re still getting the same credit as a Runemage doing massive damage to the primary target. Likewise, if you’re a Runemage focusing on just one target, your chances of getting loot on the other targets isn’t lessened,

So I guess I’m just making sure that you all are in a party during the farming process. If you had say 5 people in a party and a 6th person tagging along, they are gong to have way less of a chance to be getting loot because they aren’t getting credit for all the stuff the other party people are doing.

[dogtato]

That party xp description isn’t right. I know it’s the lead dev saying it, but I’ve tested it and if two rangers are in a party together, the xp is relative to how much damage (maybe threat) they do. It is NOT split evenly amongst everyone that has any threat.

My test: do very little damage to one mob while other player does most. Then do the opposite. Definitely not equal.

[Barry_W]

Are the two Rangers the same level?

[dogtato]

I don’t think so, but that’s not relevant.

[Luvstosmooch]

Actually it is relevant (if you are getting different amounts of xp per player) but you’re correct in that it shouldn’t change the mechanic overall

[dogtato]

Actually it is not. I understand that you get different xp based on level (I’m not a friggin idiot). You are misunderstanding my test.

If a level 14 and 15 attack a mob and the 14 does 90% of the damage, the xp split will be like 80xp to the 14 and 10xp to the 15. If they reverse who does the most damage it would be like 70xp to the 15 and 12xp to the 14. These are not real numbers, I’m just illustrating that yes I understand different levels get different xp and that is not related to getting different xp based on relative contribution.

[Riley_D]

I mean I know the mechanic overall works as it should, perhaps there is an edge case or something? We will run some tests to verify that it is working as intended in the situation you described. If you test it again and see those results and can give us the real numbers (e.g. this is how much XP I got at this level, they got this much, this is what we attacked) that would also be helpful for tracking it down.

There are a number of factors that go into how much XP you actually earn (level differences are one, the bonus XP you get for secondary classes might be another) but in theory as you said the two kills should net the same amount of XP to each person between each attack…

[dogtato]

It has been a couple weeks, but I was standing around in the rainforest with PinDragon and trying to figure out different mechanics and that is one that I tested. I’ll test it again and take a video in case I can reproduce it.

[Corgi_C]

I am also seeing what dogtato is describing.