Reborn Patch 10.90

Have hit rank 5 5 times, got one cape

I question that… Did you do most leveling solo @Kamina?

Yeah, but I’d figure a rank 5 chest would have more than a single reagent in it. Twice. Very disappointing >:(

So the way it works currently there are no ā€œguaranteedā€ drops from the device’s loot table. You get a chance at the loot table each time it levels up, and your chances are ā€œbetterā€ at higher levels. That does mean you could get a good drop at Level 2 and nothing at Level 5. Maybe we should consider some kind of guaranteed drop like a token at Level 5 or something where if you level it up to Level 5 like 10 times you get something special?

That said, the XP you get at Level 5 is always much better than Level 1, and of course the other items you get (e.g. reagents, or ingredients) are 100% driven by the monsters you kill to level up the device…so it’s up to you I guess whether you want to farm monsters that have stuff you don’t actually want to get, or if you want to spend time farming mobs that have more useful drops (I think either way is valid, I’m just saying, that’s something you control).

I haven’t really heard anyone talking about the XP reward, what is the general consensus on that?

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i think i got 2 overlevels from getting to 5 5 times

I don’t think most people have noticed that there is an XP reward, I know I sure didn’t but then I wasn’t really looking for one.

did it about 50/50, some levels are faster solo than in a group butsome, especially 5, is better in a small group

We aren’t noticing any clear inidication of getting xp. I know it is there but should there be a pop-up to show you get it?

yeah, it’s up to us until we get to level 4 and start working on level 5, there is only one area in the game with level 30+ mobs and they all drop the same stuff.

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Edit: sorry the comparison (i did in the past with 12x 4 to 5) between the 1 to 4 lvls to the 4 to 5 was all the same lvl 30 and 31 mobs. So also the lvl 1 through 4 with the higher mobs where used. That is why I am still suspisious the 4 to 5 gives a lower chance on loot.

Ah, that’s good to know. Thanks! The mobs we were killing definitely have a small drop table so that is probably a big part of it. Guess it will take more testing to find the sweet spot

The XP reward is currently:

Level 1: 1500XP
Level 2: 3000XP
Level 3: 4500 XP
Level 4: 6000 XP
Level 5: 7500 XP

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Will check the xp when I can.

I think get 1 token at lv 5 should be a good idea, but then the items should cost not like 5tokens or so, they should be expensive otherwise it’s nothing special anymore when you get something by luck

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Or just add special items, different from the lucky drop table, in that token shop, so everyone gets rewarded with tokens and the lucky drop is still a thing

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the problem with tokens is bored players will have about 1000 of them and all applicable rewards in no time because it’s better to just wait for queue pops doing that in an instant respawn monster spot, if you do i that way the ā€˜something special’ you can vendor would have to be a useful sink, or the tokens at least vendor’d for cash…

I leveled it to 5 twice just goofing around, I didn’t feel a sense of ā€˜omg I wasted all that time and didn’t get a raid drop’ or anything… it’s clearly a time killer at 30 and an xp boost for lower levels, no?

Yesterday, when I was in a group of roughly 3 to 5 people killing mobs as soon as they would spawn (as we were killing them faster than they were spawning) for roughly 2 - 3 hours. I got from lvl 27 to 28 on my musketeer and levelled the GRIND device from 1 to 5 twice.

I know it was almost exactly 1 full lvl worth as i had just got 27 from dailies in Highsteppe before going to GRIND.
In comparison to doing daily missions it’s slow and compared to public events I think its slower (? I haven’t ran out of normal missions yet so haven’t needed to go public event hopping so someone else probably knows better how quick that is for XP).

I don’t mind grinding but if I want XP I don’t think this is what would be quickest or easiest so only if I want transmogs or loot would this be preferred.

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public events are faster still seeing as you can normally do 2-4 per rotation with a group that knows what to do

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Definitely way, way slower than public events - I see this more as a bonus reward if you’re already killing mobs in the hopes of getting the legendary stuff to drop.

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Yeah for sure, would be nice to either be able to kill pink triangles for level 5 or for there to be more red star mobs around the world though so we have more varied drops for both solo players and grouped players

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Thinking about it, can you throw the GRIND device down when the public events are happening and get some XP into it? 2 birds 1 stone kinda thing.

To get lvl 3+ might be a struggle/ not really do-able but at lower levels it might be viable.