Great stuff guys
Finding missing children reminds me of that mission from old orbus
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Exciting news, ty - a bit of feedback/questions:
Climbing: Hm, I did not enjoy apps like ‘The Climb’ that much, it never felt natural (tho the views were great) and my Rift S got issues with overhead movements or those where hands gets too close… those ropes look like trouble, so I really hope that works out, mechanically.
Treasure Hunt
Ok well… crates are “tradable”, but how? Via AH to ALL players, those who got the DLC and those who have not? What will prevent new players from buying unneeded crates then, will there be a warning? Or do only those having the DLC see those items in the AH? Also 4 days is way too short, that means I need to wait 3d for an auction to expire to get one (if it was set to bid) and then only got 1 single day or a half to use it, depending on when the seller put them in.
Even 1:1 trading is a slow process, due to my experience, and in my timezone, you don’t find people so quickly and even less if they need to own the dlc. Then you need to meet up, time your rl for that (yea, some still work…) so that restriction would put too much pressure, imo.
Escort Quests
Uhm I hated them in the OG already… they were hard for certain classes since mobs killed the npc/wagon before you could, for example, poison the enemies down (Musky; now in Reborn Shaman is also a very sloooow class, totems need to be placed etc., most mobs get hits in by the time you have your first orb spawn). Overleveling these quests did the trick in the OG but I fear those could be frustrating for solo players in Reborn, due to levelscaling; but yea, just an annotation, with the different routes all that is yet to see.
Climbing:
It’s not obvious from the gif, but you have full freedom of movement around all the climbable objects, so overhead movements aren’t necessary (except for the initial grab I suppose in that one case). You can bring your body up and do movements along your stomach, for example. It is fairly forgiving in that. You can even just use one hand if you like. (You get put at the ground level if you do not grab with either hand after a couple seconds.)
Treasure Hunt
I don’t have an answer regarding the AH non-dlc stuff yet, but with regards to the time limit, the idea is to keep a limited supply in circulation. You get one every 24 hours for free by just killing stuff, and if you happen to want to run multiple in a row you can purchase some. Bid-only would definitely not be the choice to sell those, but players will set buyout prices in that case.
Escort Quests
We’ve been working at improving the pathing and design of escorts, so they should be much better than in OG Orbus. We’re also going to be careful at balancing them so they’re doable and don’t require a big group like the OG ones did (if you were low level.)
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While I am looking forward to the DLC I am concerned with the treasure map coming in another chest and this post is going to get slightly off topic but is very related and needs to be said and hopefully addressed
Okay, so you’re adding another chest that goes into your inventory, that looks exactly the same as:
- Small reward chest from missions
- Small reward chest from public event (different loot to mission rewards)
- Legendary overworld drop pet
- Grinder rewards
- Tinkerer Items
9 months ago it was bought up that these reward chests looking the same is an issue, it was said that you’d be making the icons unique, that still hasn’t happened and now you’re adding even more
Here is the thread from before about the chests:
This should be a very quick and easy fix and 9 months later it still hasn’t happened…
please make the treasure map chest “Rare” so it’s blue and doesn’t look like a standard chest, please update the current chests all you have to do is change the icon, the beam colour can wait if that would take more time to fix though potato made a very good post on the inconsistency of the loot beams
Now getting back to the topic…
Will the NPCs that are being escorted be able to be healed by muskys and bards? or will this more be for dps/tank classes?
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As is indicated on the blog post, the map crate will have a different icon. We just didn’t have it in when the gif was created.
We understand players want different icons for every item on the old crates as well, but with the current system it would require us to create duplicate different items for every single drop and this would be incompatible currently. We are looking into that feedback though.
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No, we don’t want every item to have it’s own icon, as you can see from my post on that thread I linked we just want a way to tell the difference from a standard mission/public event reward chest and one with value such as a Rare/Epic/Legendary drop
You just need to make 3 icons and then update the current chests so the icon colour matches the colour of the rarity of the item inside
I even did a very poor mock-up of what we want via MSPaint, clearly you could do a lot better job but this is showing exactly what we are asking for, not icons for everything but 3 different icons that quickly and easily show the different rarity of the chest so we don’t accidently open a rare/epic/legendary chest instead of a common public event chest
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I apologize, I misread which request you were talking about - What we will be doing is changing that overworld drop crate icon to be different from the leveling/mission/event chests one.
At the moment, the way our system is currently set up with the crates, it wouldn’t be possible to have a different crate for every rarity type like that, or split the icons in any other way, so in order to do what you suggested we’d have to re-work the entire way the crating system works.
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Omg, I’m really excited about the treasure hunting. I thought of the idea but didn’t think it was going to be added 
I’m very happy to see it being implemented in the game, and very interested in seeing how it works out.
(searched “Treasure maps” in search bar and saw I was tyne only one, makes me feel pretty special)
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As for telling rarities, the Name’s colour (and the description) is more than plentiful for me to tell. I just put the chest away from the other ones before I start opening other.
Yes, it would be useful to have a more clear way to determine rarities other than in the descriptions but there is a way to tell what is what.
Is there a way to make a prompt before opening these chests so people are warned that they are about to open a rare chest that will be soul bound when opened? That shouldn’t need a huge rework right?
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While hovering over the crates there is a description of the items that say when you open it, it will become soulbound, but having it tell you when you try to open it would be much more convenient for sure
That’s a pretty large oversight on your team’s part to be honest. Its basic MMO 101 and any other loot based games to be able to visually differentiate between rare loots and the trash. Not trying to be rude here, but come on. Not even asking for much as rickness stated. Simple colored outlines over the same icon would have done it. Literally minutes of work if the foundation had been done correctly.
Edit: Thanks for the explanation of why it hasn’t been implemented. Before it seemed as though it was just being ignored.
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Its still strange though how there are two icon types of those chests already, which proves that its not hardcoded with 1 icon. I can not imagine how the system was written wrong there but I guess we have to believe the devs in this. Spending time on it would be appreciated as you might notice from peoples reactions 
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My retired coder-brain goes tick-tock tick-tock thinking about hooow could that possibly have been messed up 
?? (And yes there are sometimes weird weird ideas of someone… in the past… which you stumble over later and think omg we will live with that solution until the very end of our app’s life XD - not that I hope it’s the case here).
Actually I think from these hints it IS hardcoded, like, every item got a certain chest as a property, which is assigned by hand in the creation/design process; not dynamically or via any criteria like rarity. Now redoing the few overworld items should not be the biggest deal (and that is why that really should come soon), redoing 100s items however would be and before I would do that I would likely drop whatever the old hardcoded method was and switch to a dynamical assignment tied to rarity instead (plus flag/property that it comes in a chest, at all) to save work in the future; so that would be a bigger project.
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“who will then lead you on a glorious path of death and destruction across a very hostile environment”
I knew that ghost pilgrim was just trying to get us killed!
Looking forward to the DLC 
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dont for get the donkey in the rainforest in classic orbus
I always wished you could feed him a carrot at the end for being a good little donkey.
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Having hidden chests and using a shovel tool would be cooler than a chest hanging in the open (if that is the case). In general a lot of this looks good.
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When I used to play Runescape, I would put a lot of time into doing Treasure Trails from clue scrolls this feels like a step in that direction and I’m looking forward to it, though there was a lot of puzzles and riddles with that as well as map locations, but it’s a good start
My thoughts exactly, it would be cool if they could put lore-type puzzles or something to give each map area a little more flavour. Having mobs guarding the chests are something I’m going to have to wait to gather my thoughts on. Also the fact map drops are limited to 1 per day is meh. I understand this since the rewards aren’t as numerous as in Runescape.
In Ultima Online(1997), there were different tiers of maps “devious, ingenious, etc…” basically T1-T5 if I remember. The higher the tier, the better the rewards. Also harder mobs spawned, which made the rewards even better (as loot/economy was really good in that game). The difficulty was double edged since you would have to either be essentially a tamer (pet dragons) or spend a lot of time summoning blade spirits/energy vortexes that were less effective (as a mage). Or group up with other people (splitting the loot, but adds to the social structure/excitement for groups). Bards were also quite excellent soloers as they could make monsters fight each other.
This also made maps very valuable for trading. One person might find it too much of a hassle and pawn it off to someone more powerful who is hoping RNG swings in their favor to make a profit. You also had to have a cartographer character who was actually trained(takes $$$/time) to actually decipher the map before it reveals the rough location. Lower skilled players could decipher say a T1,T2 but you would need higher skill level for T4 and max level for T5. This portion wouldn’t meld well into current orbus as there are no skills. Unless they added like a cool cartographer table with like pens and magnifying lenses etc lol.
You would then have to figure out the location based off the map, go to it, and attempt digging with a shovel until you strike the correct spot.
The chest was trapped and locked. You would first need to picklock(skill $$$/time) it which the skill level required scaled with the map tier, again. Then it was trapped, and if you triggered it, the damage scaled based off tier again. T5 would kill you 1-shot. There was a remove-trap skill($$$/time again). I also remember people used a spell called telekinesis to remotely open/detonate the trap. It might have been that telekinesis only worked on lower tier traps, and higher traps had to be disarmed.
The mobs spawned as items are looted from the chest as to not immediately crush the player. That means when you take a few items, some amount of mobs will spawn. If you loot the chest dry instead of killing slowly then all of the mobs for that chest would (obviously) spawn. Though you could just have them spawn in waves or over time, etc.
Maps were looted randomly off mobs. To get higher tier maps, you had to kill harder mobs. To get a T5 you had to kill stuff that would basically be group-level combat, or you were a tamer (tamers were OP and a mega pain in the butt to create). T4 would be like difficult but doable content for end game pve’rs. Mobs that dropped T5 could still drop say T4, T3, as T5 was pretty rare. T3 and less was still valuable but less sought after by end-game players. It was a win for everyone. If you looted a map you could easily sell it to another player for good profits. Likewise, the player who enjoyed doing the maps usually profited as well, got good loot from it (like magic weapons, etc) and circulated it back into the economy.
Lastly, you could make treasure-chest exclusive items based off difficulty that would be appealing to go after.
Personally I’ve not seen a better system yet.
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